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Each episode of AJP Audio brings you an in-depth look at one of the articles featured in that month’s issue of The American Journal of Psychiatry, the official journal of the American Psychiatric Association. Wide-ranging interviews with article authors cover the background, rationale, main findings, and future implications of the research.

Mar 1, 2021

Executive Editor Michael Roy speaks with Ayana Jordan, M.D., Ph.D., and Christina Mangurian, M.D., M.A.S., about their article on psychiatry diversity leadership in academic medicine.

Dr. Ayana Jordan is an associate program director of the adult psychiatry training program and an assistant professor of psychiatry at the Yale University School of Medicine. She is a member of the APA Board of Trustees, and she serves on the Early-Career Psychiatrist Advisory Committee for the journal Psychiatric Services. Her research is concentrated on increasing access to care for minoritized populations with substance use problems.

Dr. Christina Mangurian is a professor of psychiatry, epidemiology, and biostatistics in the School of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF). She is also vice chair for diversity and health equity at the UCSF Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences and a former chair of the APA Council on Minority Mental Health and Health Disparities. Her primary research program focuses on promoting mental health equity for patients and the workforce.

  • The authors’ background and how they became involved in their work [2:50]
  • How the authors’ roles in the workplace and in the community changed over the course of the past few years [7:51]
  • Description of the case vignette presented in the article [14:23]
  • The overall landscape for diversity leaders at psychiatry departments [18:40]
  • Comparisons with other fields of medicine and academia [22:20]
  • Three unique challenges faced by individuals who hold diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) roles [24:44]
  • Initial steps that can help leaders in DEI positions [28:42]
  • What people with institutional power can do to make sure that the experiences of BIPOC individuals are not ignored [34:40]
  • Best practices to effectively support DEI leadership efforts in psychiatry [37:18]
  • How scholarly research can adapt to help advance these efforts [42:39]
  • Are the authors optimistic that we can overcome barriers and make real progress in efforts to expand diversity, equity, and inclusion throughout our community and workplaces? [46:11]

Photo (from top): Helena Hansen, M.D., Ph.D., Christina Mangurian, M.D., M.A.S., Carolyn I. Rodriguez, M.D., Ph.D., Ayana Jordan, M.D., Ph.D., Ruth S. Shim, M.D., M.P.H., Altha J. Stewart, M.D. (Image courtesy of Dr. Mary Kay Smith.)

Full author list of the article:

Ayana Jordan, M.D., Ph.D. (Department of Psychiatry, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Conn.)

Ruth S. Shim, M.D., M.P.H. (Department of Psychiatry, University of California, Davis)

Carolyn I. Rodriguez, M.D., Ph.D. (Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Stanford University, Stanford, Calif., and Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System, Palo Alto, Calif.)

Eraka Bath, M.D. (Department of Psychiatry, Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, University of California, Los Angeles)

Jean-Marie Alves-Bradford, M.D. (Department of Psychiatry, Columbia University, and New York State Psychiatric Institute, New York)

Lisa Eyler, Ph.D. (Department of Psychiatry, University of California, San Diego, and Desert-Pacific Mental Illness Research, Education, and Clinical Center, VA San Diego Healthcare Center, San Diego)

Nhi-Ha Trinh, M.D. (Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard University School of Medicine, Boston)

Helena Hansen, M.D., Ph.D. (Departments of Psychiatry and Anthropology, New York University, New York)

Christina Mangurian, M.D., M.A.S. (Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences and Department of Biostatistics and Epidemiology, University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), UCSF Center for Vulnerable Populations at Zuckerberg San Francisco General, and UCSF Philip R. Lee Institute for Health Policy Studies, San Francisco)

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